Sunday, April 1, 2012

New Sump Pit!

jambaloney here!

one of the wintertime enhancements i wanted to do was move and replace the sump pit. the original was a shealth of abs over a hole held in place with a prybar and some dumbbells:


this is a close-up - you can see the bar sticking out that my kness have come to dread. it is also easting up waaaay too much space!


this "panorama" of the south-west basement wall shows you what i mean, the new location is marked "HERE".


here is a close up of the corner that will be the new home for the sump pit. that pre-existing workbench isn't the best so i have no qualms cutting off a section. i don't need that much counter space anyway, it only invites dumping stuff onto ; -)


the new sump pit liner is a 67 litre garbage can. after lengthy research i figured it would be as good as a tailor-made sump pit, and cheaper.


it needs some holes.....



and some screen to keep out debris.....


finally, some rocks in the recessed edge at the bottom of the garbage pail to weigh it down. the pedestal of the sump pump will sit on the raised shelf in the middle.



after removing a section of the bench, i dug a new hole - you can see the water table.



next step was to put the new liner in the hole and install the pump and test it....


and finally fill it in!!


the next morning i went down a played with the float some.... and the new configuration was lacking.... had to dig a LARGER and DEEPER hole.



and drill a LOT more BIG holes in the liner !!


the second time is a charm - this is a BIG improvement spatially and functionally - success!!


the garbage can works really well. i had read online that 1/4 " holes would be sufficient - not the case. if you do this yourself, drill 1" holes and a lot of them!! ;-)

thanks for stopping in - cheers!!!

34 comments:

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    1. thanks donna , sur emade a difference!

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  2. One more job off the "Honey Do" list, But I am sure the list is still long.

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    1. rob:

      this wasn't even on that list!! ;-))

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    2. Of course not, it was on the fun project to do so that you could avoid the not fun "honey do" list projects, and still claim to be industrious. LOL

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  3. The water table is an inch under your basement and foundation? Oh MY!!!

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    1. pp:

      that is the reason i am digging the trench:

      http://framboisemanor.blogspot.ca/2011/12/different-kind-of-hellhole-trench.html

      ...to get a proper drain UNDER the footing of the foundation. this has to do for now ;-)

      cheers!

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  4. Excellant Jam you saved me alot of money! We have been planning after the spring thaw on buying a sump pit for the oddest of reasons. We are going to sink it into the ground in the backyard and use it to compost the Bear waste. We read up on it, can't use it in the veggie garden but its fine to use around flowers and such. Just dump lime in with the waste. Now I have designs to use a trash barrel instead! Thanks!

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    1. beth:

      glad to be of help!! you might want to consider smaller and fewer holes for your application as is seems to me you want the waste to leech out slowly into the garden. you probably don`t need the screen either.

      cheers!!!

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  5. I cannot see how you dug your trench, but pepples around the exterior side of the garbage can may help flow into the pit.

    I had forgotten about the trench. If it is not getting the job done, you could try some diversion on the front (water source) side. But if the back side trench was no fun, that (with far deeper to go will be even less so.

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    1. russell:

      the trench isn`t yet finished. i plan on running 3" abs from under the footing right out to the driveway, much like a fully buried french drain. it will require a 4-5 foot trench, i am down about 2 feet. my step-dad ted got me started, i'll get 'er done by summer ;-))

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  6. Since your homes location is high on a hill, that's a heck of a water table...or seems to me. Anyway, nice job.

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    1. stephen:

      we are hoping there is a spring nearby!!!

      it's not so much a permanent water table as runoff.. it is so wet here that there is always some water seeping into the basement... when we have heavy rain, the sump pump is at full tilt boogie!

      hope you are recovering in quick order!

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  7. Hey, Jambaloney!
    Nice job!

    I'm forwarding a link to your blog upstairs to Renoman so he can have a look too. lol Our cellar is a wreck from water damage. I'm pretty sure it hasn't always been that way because there are remains of plastered walls and an icebox down there, but now water in spring rises with the water table and makes a mess. It would be super to use the cellar for root veggie storage one day.

    You two are going to have to talk!

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    1. thanks sue!!!

      a decent sump pump/pit will solve your problem nicely. you can get it all at canadian tire for about $100.00...

      $60 for a 1/3 hp pedestal pump
      $15 for the garbage can
      $15 for a check valve
      $10 for the hose

      our potatoes are still good in the cellar, they make awesome storage!! hope your weather is as nice as ours today!!

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  8. ...now how smart is that!....excellent job!

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  9. Sorry but all I want to say is watz sump pump?~~ Too many sons and watz up!

    ;)

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    1. jennifer:

      you are in kind of a drier area than us ;-)

      a sump pump is an automatic device that comes on automatically when water in a designated "pit" reaches a certain level and pumps it out and away from the structure.... it keeps basements. etc/ from flooding. after the water level falls, they turn off again.

      basically a thermostat works the same way... heat on when the temp is too low and then off when the desired temp is reached.

      wazzup?!? ;-))

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    2. oh Jen - bahahahahah! you had him scratching his head cuz he didn't know how to answer you! then i reminded him that you all lived in the...ummm...ya know...desert! THEN he understood! bahahahahah! xoxoxo spicey!

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  10. Hmmm, that's gonna suck. ;)

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  11. Gosh, Jambe is there no backhoe rental anywhere close?? A 'hoe will have that trench dug 8 feet deep pretty darn quick. If you have never run one, the learning curve is NOT terribly steep and even if you are slow, very much more productive than a stupid spoon.

    Meanwhile your well digging in the basement has been both productive and been a temporary solution. Well done.

    And how are you doing with only one leg now? What? Did Bunny Ears give it to Beth or something even worse?

    Winston

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  12. i know i know...maybe it's my own penance or something ;-) the ground here is real soft so it's not that bad a chore.

    thanks - there is a generator out back and a new pump in a box handy just in case, we're covered until the drain is in place.

    i also had a spare leg in a box handy so i am all good on that front too ;-))



    cheers!

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    1. oh Winston - you really can't go and rent equipment around here without the proper licensing and stuff - which thankfully - our friend Jimmy had - which is why he was able to rent the backhoe for us to clear the land and build the road! but for normal people, you have to hire the company - and we just don't have that kind of money right now until we save for a bit.

      and ya buddy - in order to make some extra cash - i sold jambaloney's leg to Beth...she doesn't seem to have any problem with gloating over being the owner of his left leg - bahahahahhha! oh i am bad. and i hope doesn't see this because she is quite sweet!

      Winston - i am so glad that you are back, my dear friend!

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    2. Go look what I found...speaking of making someone you know well drool and all.

      http://redding.craigslist.org/grd/2928015733.html

      Clearly can't ship such a thing, but look for one locally. This one is newer than mine and has hydraulic blade making it MUCH easier to use.

      What is this about licensing??? Thank heaven I left that nonsense when I left Canada. Here, you want a Cat, go buy it, then get some instruction and learn what to do. I did and sometimes that Yellow Mountain even lets me accomplish something, LMHO.

      So now we all get to feel bad about "poor" Jamb now that YOU have made him a Jamb clo'pant. I'm gonna laugh all night!~

      Winston

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  13. We have water issues, too. Mostly spring melt, runoff, and rain. Feels good to have that taken care of...water can be so damaging.

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    1. it does feel good not to have to worry about water damage for certain!!

      thanks for stopping by!!

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  14. Wow that looks like fun. Well no it doesn't, but you know it's always great feeling when a big job is finished and it works! Well done!

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    1. compare to some of the jobs around here, this project was kinda fun - good "bang for the buck"!

      thanks!!!

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  15. When I moved into my house, I had to redo the sump pit. I however had access to a stainless steel clothes washer drum with preformed holes all around it. It still is a deluxe sump pit if I ever saw one!

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    1. that sounds like an awesome sump pit liner!!!

      that was a luck thing to have on hand to be sure!

      cheers!

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  16. I would be really concerned with settling of the house with all that water there. Depending on the soil content that is one sure sign of a potential sinkhole. I really like the DIY of the sump pump and I hope that it buys some time for you.

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    1. the ground here is full of rocks so there isn't much major shifting. part of our problem is the way ground slopes toward the house in a some areas - that will be fixed too.

      the pump will do it's job until then - thanks for stopping by!

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